PLEASE -- HELP BRING MADELEINE HOME!, Three-year-old girl abducted...Your support needed Options

[BronwynB]

Still keeping Maddy in my daily thoughts.
I pray that wherever she may be that she is been taken care of.

I wonder to myself with the amount of donations the family has recieved, if they have at all involved a reputuble psychic to assist them. Been a parent of a little girl myself, i would think that i would take any kind of assistance available. With more and more psychic investigators becoming involved with criminal cases, why not take a chance?
My first feeling i got on this case was that she was ubducted by someone within the hotel walls, a cleaning lady perhaps, someone that she knew, and someone that would know the whereabouts of the adults. Morroco came to me very strongly too, perhaps a final destination. Maybe its got to do with the crossing of borders. However i still feel that she is in Europe, France seems to be coming to me alot lately aswell.

I pray that god protect her, and that as young as she is that she knows she is deeply loved and missed.

Lets all try and keep her in our daily prayers and thoughts.

Bronwyn

[starlo]

i have this feeling that there is going to be some kind of breakthrough in the Madeleine Mccann abduction this month. i don't know, i just have this strong feeling that alot will be revealed (possibly even madeleine herself) between september-november this year. i pray for her and all those close to her.

[Tricia]

i have this feeling that there is going to be some kind of breakthrough in the Madeleine Mccann abduction this month. i don't know, i just have this strong feeling that alot will be revealed (possibly even madeleine herself) between september-november this year. i pray for her and all those close to her.

Starlo, I also believe we shall see Madeleine again and to be honest, I can't bring myself to think any other way.
Why would she be kept this long and why, as Kate said, can't whoever has Madeleine leave her somewhere safe?

[booie]

Starlo, I also believe we shall see Madeleine again and to be honest, I can't bring myself to think any other way.
Why would she be kept this long and why, as Kate said, can't whoever has Madeleine leave her somewhere safe?

I read this thread after seeing her in the news again today. I can't say I read everyone's post but each one that I read sounded positive. It seems as if everyone believes she is alive. I understand that they have some forensic evidence that may lead police to believe she may be dead. I do think this case is so sad and I hope she is alive, that her parents find her well soon but I can't help and fear and know it's possible she is not alive.

In any event, I find it inspirational to see that so many people are praying and hoping for one family to find peace.

[Lenky]

I read this thread after seeing her in the news again today. I can't say I read everyone's post but each one that I read sounded positive. It seems as if everyone believes she is alive. I understand that they have some forensic evidence that may lead police to believe she may be dead. I do think this case is so sad and I hope she is alive, that her parents find her well soon but I can't help and fear and know it's possible she is not alive.

In any event, I find it inspirational to see that so many people are praying and hoping for one family to find peace.

Thank you, Booie...

It is certainly a very sad, complicated and sometimes confusing case...The latest news is that Kate McCann (Madeleine's mother) is to visit the police station shortly where she will be formally be declared a suspect by the Portuguese police. Under Portuguese law, there are certain questions that can only be asked of a person if s/he is officially a suspect (which means that they cannot be asked of a witness, which Mr and Mrs McCann have been up to now). So, in spite of any suggestions in the media we should not read more into this development than that.

Meanwhile I hope that our main focus will remain on Madeleine and the hope of finding her soon.

[Tricia]

It's good to see postings about Madeleine here. Last night I was glued to Sky news until past 1 am, I couldn't go to bed until I saw Kate leaving the police station and here I am once again (11:15 pm) waiting for Gerry to leave the station.
I can not believe that Kate could have done what the police are saying and they are actually asking her to make a confession admitting to accidently killing Madeleine and if she does they will see she gets 2 years or less in jail!
Something doesn't sit right, are they still trying to get Kate and Gerry out of the picture, like they tried to do a few weeks ago?
Does anyone else have any thoughts on this?
Tricia x

[Lenky]

It's good to see postings about Madeleine here. Last night I was glued to Sky news until past 1 am, I couldn't go to bed until I saw Kate leaving the police station and here I am once again (11:15 pm) waiting for Gerry to leave the station.
I can not believe that Kate could have done what the police are saying and they are actually asking her to make a confession admitting to accidently killing Madeleine and if she does they will see she gets 2 years or less in jail!
Something doesn't sit right, are they still trying to get Kate and Gerry out of the picture, like they tried to do a few weeks ago?
Does anyone else have any thoughts on this?
Tricia x

Hello Tricia,

yes I agree that a lot of things do not sit right. The first thing that comes to my mind is that if the PJ (Policia Judiciaria [sp??]) actually had sufficient evidence to charge anyone in connection with this case then the obvious thing to do would be to arrest the person/s and charge them. It is an extraordinary step in these circumstances to offer a deal to "confess" prior to even laying charges against a person; so if the reported allegations of the PJ offering Mrs McCann a "deal" are true, it strongly suggests (imho) that there is not enough evidence to frame a charge that would hold up before a magistrate and so the PJ wants a "confession".

Further to the PJ's alleged deal (and I say alleged because as no such "deal" will be confirmed by them and this info has come only from a McCann family member, so it is unprovable), there is no way that the PJ can guarantee any particular sentence by a court. If that were the case then the entire judicial system of Portugal is suddenly rendered invalid! Yes I have heard of plea bargains, but they come after a person has at least been charged. Beyond that, it is the court of criminal proceedings and only the court that has the right make a judgment and to pass sentence, and if the police have tried to make a deal and "promise" a relatively light sentence then they have not only over-stepped their authority but have probably done something rather illegal.

What follows is for anyone reading:

We must, of course, bear in mind that there is no proof of any such deal being offered. Mrs McCann is not permitted to publicly discuss details of this case, so we must allow for the admittedly slight possibility that her family member's information is not totally correct or that her statements, edited by the media, may be slightly misleading.

It cannot be denied that the PJ have put an enormous amount of effort and resources into this case and in spite of our own opinions about their progress, the fact remains that the overwhelming majority of police are decent and honest -- and those in Portugal only want what we want: a resolution of this case.

Please note that while both Mr and Mrs McCann have now been formally declared "arguido" (suspects) in this case, that does not carry the same meaning as it does in some other countries. In fact, an individual can request to be declared "arguido" (or "arguida" if a woman) as this formality affords him or her certain protections and also requires the police to provide details of the evidence they have. The Portuguese police do not have to reveal any such details when questioning a witness; at the same time, they are restricted in what questions they can ask a witness. Such questions include asking the person if they actually committed the (alleged) crime. Obviously they would have asked this of Mr and Mrs McCann once they had "arguido" status, and equally obviously, they both either replied in the negative or retained their rights as "arguido" and did not answer. (An "arguido" has the right to remain silent.) If either of them had admitted to committing the alleged crime, then I am sure that the police would have been obliged to arrest and charge them. To fail to do so would be ludicrous. Ergo, there were no admissions.

I repeat: at the time I write Mr and Mrs McCann have not been arrested or charged. They were both questioned (separately, which is the correct way to conduct such questioning), and then released. They are not "on bail" as they haven't been charged with anything, and are not under the orders of any court.

I hope my long-winded explanation has helped to clear up a few points for some readers and also deflected the effects of misinformed statements being made on some websites and in some news media.

If anyone has seen newspaper or media reports about the forensic test results, please bear in mind that these results have not been officially released to the public. All that we "know" is the result of "leaks" and any such leaks are of dubious credibility. Any assumptions (of guilt or an actual crime) based on these "results" are therefore premature. Apparently, under Portuguese law, the PJ cannot release these details due to their secrecy laws that protect evidence while an investigation is in progress, and if they are officially released by the British side then that could be seen as hindering the case.

Something else that doesn't sit right is that if a person accidentally injures his or her own child, the natural reaction is to do whatever one can to help. Any recriminations can come later. Mr and Mrs McCann are both medical doctors, and several of the group they were with are also medical doctors, and any doctor's first reaction would be to make all possible efforts to help this little girl.

What worries me the most is that these latest developments have drawn police and media resources away from the true quest, which is to find Madeleine McCann.

Please everyone, keep her in your thoughts...and think of the other missing children as well...

Thank you...

[starlo]

i think it was an accident

[Lenky]

My own assumptions (in my previous post) were somewhat astray. I have obtained some information via a Portuguese lawyer and it shows some of the differences between the legal/judicial system in that country and perhaps your own...

First of all, the Portuguese police (PJ) have no legal power to make “deals”. Any “deals” can only be done with a judge/magistrate in a court of law -- similar but not identical, I suppose, to the situations you may have heard of in the US where a judge may accept a plea bargain.

Secondly, the police (PJ) have no power to charge a suspect in such a case as this. They conduct the investigation and prepare information for the public prosecutor, who then decides whether to lay charges or not. These powers are covered under sect. 276 of the civil procedures code.

Third: under sect. 314 of the civil procedures code, the only confessions that have any legal validity in Portugal are those made during a court hearing. Even if a person “confessed” to police during questioning, only its confirmation in court has any validity. If the person recants their original confession in court then it is no longer valid and will not even be considered by the judge.

So, it would seem that the information in the media -- stating that Mrs McCann was offered a “deal” by the police -- is erroneous.

[Tricia]

What worries me the most is that these latest developments have drawn police and media resources away from the true quest, which is to find Madeleine McCann.

Please everyone, keep her in your thoughts...and think of the other missing children as well...

Thank you...

Thanks for your posting Lenky, it was very informative. Madeleine is still out there and the search has to continue. I feel deeply for her parents, how awful for them. They also want the search for their daughter to continue, regardless of what is happening to them now.
I wish I could pick up something, anything that would shed some light on this, but I feel that because I have been so wrapped up in this, it is causing a block, I seem to be unable to focus in the right way.

[Lenky]

Thanks for your posting Lenky, it was very informative. Madeleine is still out there and the search has to continue. I feel deeply for her parents, how awful for them. They also want the search for their daughter to continue, regardless of what is happening to them now.
I wish I could pick up something, anything that would shed some light on this, but I feel that because I have been so wrapped up in this, it is causing a block, I seem to be unable to focus in the right way.

Hello Tricia,

I understand what you are saying about feeling unable to focus...I suspect many of us are feeling the same way. This case is getting more strange, distressing for all concerned, and complex every day. I cannot even imagine what the McCann family are going through now...I pray that they will have some goodness shining in soon to alleviate this terrible time they are suffering.

And yes -- the search should go on.
Thank you,
Lenky

[Tricia]

Good evening all.
I'm off to bed shortly, work tomorrow so an early night needed here, but I wanted to check in here first.
I watched the news today, I'm sure we all did! and my heart went out to Kate and Gerry. It must have been so difficult deciding to return to the UK, I know they were going to do it quite soon anyway but given what has transpired over the past couple days I think it was the best thing they could do.
The search for Madeleine will still continue and I'm sure the McCann family will make sure Madeleine is not forgotten despite Kate and Gerry being home.
Perhaps it will take what has happened to bring Madeleine into the picture again. I don't know why, but I have a sense of comfort knowing Kate and Gerry are home.
Anyway good night all.
Blessings
Tricia x

[Tricia]

I'd like to post a link and hope it's ok to do so, it's about Madeleine, with audio. It's very touching and so beautiful.
Thanks
Tricia x

http://www.howgreatthouart.co.uk/maddie.htm

[Lenky]

I'd like to post a link and hope it's ok to do so, it's about Madeleine, with audio. It's very touching and so beautiful.
Thanks
Tricia x

http://www.howgreatthouart.co.uk/maddie.htm

Tricia,

thank you... I am sure it's okay to post this link.

Madeleine, it will all be okay...there are lovely angels all around you.

[nigel]

i was wondering if anyone had seen any news articles showing a photo of a bald man watching madeleine and her 2 younger siblings if so do you think he may know what happened to her

[Tricia]

i was wondering if anyone had seen any news articles showing a photo of a bald man watching madeleine and her 2 younger siblings if so do you think he may know what happened to her

Hi Nigel.
Yes I have also seen that photo, he also appears in another photo walking with the GNR and Murat in the early days of Madeleine's disappearance. I'm not sure who he is, but I have often wondered.

[nigel]

when i saw that photo i felt very sick in my stomach almost immediately not sure why though

[feeler]

I'd like to post a link and hope it's ok to do so, it's about Madeleine, with audio. It's very touching and so beautiful.
Thanks
Tricia x

http://www.howgreatthouart.co.uk/maddie.htm

very, very touching indeed" my heart was already broken for little maddy now it's completely shattered. I still feel maddy is in a small place in a big room either in a wooden box, or it even feels like she's under a house or a porch. ask me more if you like please.

[AnnaBella]

very, very touching indeed" my heart was already broken for little maddy now it's completely shattered. I still feel maddy is in a small place in a big room either in a wooden box, or it even feels like she's under a house or a porch. ask me more if you like please.

My heart and prayer's go out to Maddie and her family. May she return home, safely!!! What a PRECIOUS little girl

Anna

[spooky]

My heart and prayer's go out to Maddie and her family. May she return home, safely!!! What a PRECIOUS little girl

Anna

hi anyone around ,its my first post ,and wondered if be ok to post all my dreams and thoughts on this case ,as new im not sure of youre rules [size=1]