crystals, how do they work Options

[nigel]

someone told me that rose quartz can attract friendship,I wondered if that is true

[Dot]

someone told me that rose quartz can attract friendship,I wondered if that is true

I don't see why not! Rose quartz works with love and relationships; all kinds. That includes family, lovers, friends, pets, and etcetera!

[GypsyMama]

I've never worked with crystals, though it's been suggested to me, so if I'm way off base here, ignore me. But.....

... There must be some kind of physical mechanism behind this for it to work as it is supposed to, a cause, an effect. ...

Why? Why does there have to be a physical mechanism to the crystal itself for it to work? Stories abound about the power of belief, about how sugar pills and charms and such work, or don't work, depending on the user's level of belief in the efficacy of the tool. There's no physical mechanism to that.

I'm really unsure about crystals myself, but I can't understand the claim that there *must* a physical mechanism for something to work. Why does there have to be one? Why can't it "just work"?

[Angel C]

Oh and then there's focus and positive intention too.

They do work aswell imo! I just used one today during a meditation, and I feel much brighter and fresher, than I have for weeks!!!

I used a selenite wand. If you're thinking of getting a crystal GypsyMama I can reccomend this one to you. It is great for cleansing the aura. You can place it on your body during a meditation, or better still get someone to comb your aura with it. Start at the back at the left and work clockwize around the body - just comb from about 6inches to 1 ft away from the body from the top of the crown to the feet. The person can either be sitting or standing.

Talking of magic, this crystal has the most magical feel to it of all, to me.

[Armadodecadron]

I've never worked with crystals, though it's been suggested to me, so if I'm way off base here, ignore me. But.....

Why? Why does there have to be a physical mechanism to the crystal itself for it to work? Stories abound about the power of belief, about how sugar pills and charms and such work, or don't work, depending on the user's level of belief in the efficacy of the tool. There's no physical mechanism to that.

I'm really unsure about crystals myself, but I can't understand the claim that there *must* a physical mechanism for something to work. Why does there have to be one? Why can't it "just work"?

Ah, the placebo effect. The phrase no one likes to have attributed to their work - be it pharmaceutical companies hoping to peddle expensive medication they dread pitting against the sugar pill test, to new age healers flinching when it is suggested they are doing nothing but psyching their clients into thinking they're being healed. But I think you and I are on the same page with this - I think the placebo effect is actually a valuable clue towards understanding how the spiritual force and the human body interact.

But it can't "just work" because it "works"! If it "works", it's doing work. It's causing real, physical change. If you were to ask my opinion of how the placebo effect is such a powerful force in healing, I would say that actively focusing on and firmly believing in your own improvement actuates a healing mechanism that is both physically mediated and spiritually active.

Are you familiar with the notion of the spiritual body? In a nutshell, it is said that the human being possesses an ethereal or spiritual body that mirrors the physical body (not to be confused with the ultimate soul of an individual, which supposedly inhabits both), and that what influences one can have subtle or drastic effects on the other, as they share a common image. Auric contact or spiritual healing would, hypothetically, not be influencing the physical body directly, but altering the composition of the ethereal body, and as they attempt to share that common "image", the physical body, through means unknown, reacts to conform to changes in its counterpart. And similarly grave illnesses and mortal injuries to the physical body - or perhaps even minor ailments - cause changes in the well being of the ethereal body, which cause noticeable changes in a weakened or sick individual's aura. Perhaps death itself can only occur because the spiritual body is so responsive to change in the physical body - or perhaps vice versa. What if a person possessed a spiritual body that completely ignored all physical ailments and problems and continually asserted an image and force of perfect vitality?

But however this works, there *has* to be some point and some time when spiritual influence ceases to be wholly spiritual and causes physical change in the human body for any of this to occur. Where and when is that gap bridged? It is a broad question, really. They answer is certainly out there, and it would explain many, many things.

[Angel C]

But it can't "just work" because it "works"! If it "works", it's doing work. It's causing real, physical change. If you were to ask my opinion of how the placebo effect is such a powerful force in healing, I would say that actively focusing on and firmly believing in your own improvement actuates a healing mechanism that is both physically mediated and spiritually active.

That makes a lot of sense.

I have found that in my own limited experience that Mind over Matter is achieved more easily when focussing on the spiritual, rather than the mind or the body.

But however this works, there *has* to be some point and some time when spiritual influence ceases to be wholly spiritual and causes physical change in the human body for any of this to occur. Where and when is that gap bridged? It is a broad question, really. They answer is certainly out there, and it would explain many, many things.

I know this doesnt really answer this, but I wonder if it is the strength of the connection between the two bodies you describe, or to look at another way, unity of mind, body and spirit. Therefore enabling the two bodies - physical and energy bodies, to become one, even if for a brief moment. For instance in deep meditation, prayer, focus (as in martial arts) or perhaps when receiving energy healing... Just a thought!

edit: had some thoughts about your first question. I think that perhaps, crystals focus the life force energy on the energy centres (chakras) in the same way that a persons hands would do in energy healing, such as Reiki. Especially crystals in the quartz family as it is a good conductor of energy. Perhaps they even magnify it somehow.