Angel C
Jun 14 2009, 11:32 AM
So I drew this soul lesson card, because I have been feeling a bit low.
I have been thinking this is to do with spiritual growth, and I had to face up to some things, from my past and maybe even in my present in order to be able to grow further.
I have been having very strange dreams, quite often I wake up and while still half asleep am having a conversation with someone, this person I think is a woman, a bit younger than me, Im unsure, anyhow I always think I'll remember the snippets that I hear, but I never do, because I fall asleep again. I dont think its always this person that Im speaking to though.
So I just drew a soul lesson card, because my mood still hasnt improved, even after meditating on it, and receiving kind of counselling during the meditation. I rarely have low moods that last longer than a day, and can usually pinpoint a cause. This time I cannot.
And the soul lesson I got is "Ask with sincerity"
This card goes on to tell me that I shouldnt try to control my guidance and that I should be open to hearing the answers they give and not what I want to hear. It also says that I shouldnt try to make things work out how I want them and instead let the Universe show me a new way.
That is fair enough, but Im obviously in a transitional stage and finding it a bit hard.
Does anyone have any guidance for me. By asking you this rather than asking for it myself, hopefully I wont be controlling what I hear.
Thank you
fooze
Jun 14 2009, 10:58 PM
What is the question you want answered?
Angel C
Jun 15 2009, 12:11 AM
Why do I feel like this?
fooze
Jun 15 2009, 04:31 AM
I can't think of any way to answer that without resorting to circular reasoning. The fact that you're asking the question is interesting though, as you do seem to realise you are responsible for your feelings.
Only this time it looks tougher than before. Less obvious at least. Don't be disheartened if results aren't immediately apparent.
Maybe it means that you already are asking with sincerity, you already know the way. Maybe the universe is teaching you that all questions can not be answered.
Can you draw a card for me?
I've had a bad day too.
Angel C
Jun 15 2009, 06:10 AM
QUOTE (fooze @ Jun 15 2009, 04:31 PM)

Maybe the universe is teaching you that all questions can not be answered.
Thank you, Fooze, I'll think on that.
Yes I will draw a card for you. Do you want a soul lesson card? They can sometimes be a bit harsh! They are actually called Soul Lesson and Soul Purpose Oracle Cards, by Sonia Choquette.
Maybe you could draw me one of those Zen ones for me?
Tayesin
Jun 15 2009, 12:11 PM
A lot of people are experiencing a very rapid rollercoaster at the moment where they have a period of deep morass or the blues for no apparent reason, this is often coupled with being very touchy and easily angered. It's okay, it is part of the process we are all in at the moment except we go through it in our own time. Bear with yourself, you will move through this phase soon enough. All you can do is to focus on positive things, give yourself a moment or two in each day to appreciate anything beautiful, lift your eyebrows and you will find yourself beginning to feel more positive too.
Moonchild
Jun 15 2009, 12:35 PM
I just want to say how much I agree with the great suggestions already given so far, especially Tayesin's message of looking for the brightness already around you.
As cliched as it may sound, sometimes changing your world is only as difficult as changing your mind.
Kai
Jun 15 2009, 03:56 PM
That is really good advice Tayesin, it is good to remember "this too shall pass."
Angel C
Jun 15 2009, 09:27 PM
Thank you all for your replies and Chiili for your pm. I posted this and felt a load better the next day, and feel almost back to normal today. The worst was of this was Friday, Saturday and Sunday.
Don't get me wrong, I feel low sometimes just as other people do, but I am pretty in touch with my subconscious and can normally pinpoint a reason, I thought I had found the reason and worked with it, but this didnt seem to be the whole story. I really couldnt pinpoint the reason for feeling this way, it didnt seem, emotional, mental, or physical, so I think it must have been something at a much deeper level.
Tayesin, what you are saying is so right, I know of at least 2 spiritual people who have told me they were going through something very similar at the same time, one person told me this, not knowing what I had been experiencing.
Its strange but I feel as though something has changed, something in a higher level, if that makes sense.
Thanks once again to everyone who replied, it really helps to know that people understand.
Angel C
Jun 15 2009, 09:38 PM
Just re-read a few posts on the forum and I wonder how many of us are actually feeling this way and why? Why do so many of us seem to have been feeling this way over the last week or two, it seems odd that this has been happening to a lot of us around the same time.
Anyone have any ideas?
nigel
Jun 15 2009, 11:25 PM
could it be to do with the planets or something like that
Chiili
Jun 16 2009, 04:22 PM
Could it be a shift of energy of sorts?
I mean... what if because of the advancement of technology for instance people like us are finding ways to connect like I have with you, Angel, and others at this site. And what if as we support one another we make more connections in our own space and it causes a ripple effect?
The discussion of, the support and being open about psychic and spirituality might just be bringing things that we would normally keep in the darkness, in the backs of our minds and the basements and attics of our lives is being brought into the light. I visited a friend on Monday, first time checking out her new apartment after they moved in. Besides loving what she had done to the place she had a set of Goddess cards which I will get someday. And I pulled on the cards that not just appealed to me but I noticed looked like some iconic figures in my spiritual journey. And within my choices it said not to be afraid of those dark places of our minds. Like your card told you answers will come, just not from or how you expected them
Sometimes I look at the media and look at their trends, there are already more shows on the subject that are coming out. New books are added to the shelves of my local bookstore. Plus people are trying to take a positive spin on things. With the way things are going in the world I think those of us who really want something positive to come of the world's association with one another is bringing us out of the woodworks. When all seems lost don't some of us normally turn to a higher power?
My husband not too recently said that he believed God was in all of us. That churches and religions shouldn't try to separate us but bring us together. When he said it I was taken aback as I had mention the same if not similar and never got a response from him, agree or disagree. And there he was mentioning it in front of our friends... Did something suddenly just click on?
Maybe the God in us is being awakened but some of us are not quite ready for it and so its causes quite the stir in us. I was once told, maybe here or by my mother in law, that when you get your quiet moments, when you don't know what to do and feel like you should do something - anything, you should 'do nothing'. Just quiet yourself so that you can hear yourself. Maybe its time that we listen to one another?
alexandra
Jun 16 2009, 05:27 PM
QUOTE (Angel C @ Jun 16 2009, 01:38 AM)

Just re-read a few posts on the forum and I wonder how many of us are actually feeling this way and why? Why do so many of us seem to have been feeling this way over the last week or two, it seems odd that this has been happening to a lot of us around the same time.
Anyone have any ideas?
Yes. I study astrology. We've got some pretty "violent" eclipses coming up this summer. Two lunar and one total solar eclipses. I've heard that these eclipses will create significant endings and new beginnings, which is not always a bad thing.
Depending on your natal chart, some will be really affected by these, while others not so much. And it is believed that some people can feel the influence of an eclipse as far as one month in advance (The first eclipse is around July 7, so it's pretty close in range for we empaths to feel it). In fact, it is believed that eclipses can create "unpredictable" events and outcomes that some astrologers advise people to not make major moves within a few days of an eclipse (I personally wouldn't go that far because I've always lived on the edge anyway).
Chiili
Jun 16 2009, 07:22 PM
wow, well, my friend Maggy, she says she's been peaking in terms of what she's able to get, like lately she's just 'on.' And her birthday is on July 7th... Good to know...
I have a thing with weather more so than eclipses.. i think, i never tried to pay attention to the pattern... it's my own fault for experimenting during a lightening storm lol. Now because of the summer storms i'm all "jazzed" up
Angel C
Jun 16 2009, 09:22 PM
QUOTE (alexandra @ Jun 17 2009, 05:27 AM)

Yes. I study astrology. We've got some pretty "violent" eclipses coming up this summer. Two lunar and one total solar eclipses. I've heard that these eclipses will create significant endings and new beginnings, which is not always a bad thing.
Depending on your natal chart, some will be really affected by these, while others not so much. And it is believed that some people can feel the influence of an eclipse as far as one month in advance (The first eclipse is around July 7, so it's pretty close in range for we empaths to feel it). In fact, it is believed that eclipses can create "unpredictable" events and outcomes that some astrologers advise people to not make major moves within a few days of an eclipse (I personally wouldn't go that far because I've always lived on the edge anyway).
Wow - well that makes a load of sense.
Angel C
Jun 16 2009, 11:24 PM
QUOTE (Chiili @ Jun 17 2009, 04:22 AM)

Could it be a shift of energy of sorts?
I mean... what if because of the advancement of technology for instance people like us are finding ways to connect like I have with you, Angel, and others at this site. And what if as we support one another we make more connections in our own space and it causes a ripple effect?
The discussion of, the support and being open about psychic and spirituality might just be bringing things that we would normally keep in the darkness, in the backs of our minds and the basements and attics of our lives is being brought into the light. I visited a friend on Monday, first time checking out her new apartment after they moved in. Besides loving what she had done to the place she had a set of Goddess cards which I will get someday. And I pulled on the cards that not just appealed to me but I noticed looked like some iconic figures in my spiritual journey. And within my choices it said not to be afraid of those dark places of our minds. Like your card told you answers will come, just not from or how you expected them
Sometimes I look at the media and look at their trends, there are already more shows on the subject that are coming out. New books are added to the shelves of my local bookstore. Plus people are trying to take a positive spin on things. With the way things are going in the world I think those of us who really want something positive to come of the world's association with one another is bringing us out of the woodworks. When all seems lost don't some of us normally turn to a higher power?
My husband not too recently said that he believed God was in all of us. That churches and religions shouldn't try to separate us but bring us together. When he said it I was taken aback as I had mention the same if not similar and never got a response from him, agree or disagree. And there he was mentioning it in front of our friends... Did something suddenly just click on?
Maybe the God in us is being awakened but some of us are not quite ready for it and so its causes quite the stir in us. I was once told, maybe here or by my mother in law, that when you get your quiet moments, when you don't know what to do and feel like you should do something - anything, you should 'do nothing'. Just quiet yourself so that you can hear yourself. Maybe its time that we listen to one another?
You know as I was falling asleep last night I heard words to the effect of "We are the breath of god". Cant remember exactly what I heard, there was more than that. I personally am starting to think that what I went through was some kind of re-alignment of the part of my soul which resides in a higher realm than this. I also think a lot of this insight I have been receiving recently is coming from my Higher Self. I have been kind of in touch with my Higher Self for a while, but I am getting such clear insight from there now. I'm not saying this necessarily applies to anyone else. But if so, who knows you better than a higher you?
Another thing that has happened is I received an email from a friend yesterday, who lives at the other side of the world. She has no idea that I had been feeling like this, as far as I know she doesnt post on or visit this forum, or any psychic/spiritual forums, as far as I am aware. So my guidance really did come from an unexpected place. What she sent me was so relevant to how I have been feeling, and so relevant to what you are saying Chiili.
I'll find it on the internet and post a link.

Actually probably best if you search in google for the presentation, its "Pinciple of Emptiness Joseph Newton"
ColorMySoul
Jun 17 2009, 04:38 PM
I just posted in another topic that myself and several people I know have been feeling down.
I recently bought an Astrology book, and it too said that troubling times were ahead because of the eclipses and whatnot. It's funny. Even in my meeting at work the other night, someone mentioned the full moon and how it seems to be affecting the attitude of all the customers. lol
Love and light to all so that we'll make it through.
Victoria
Jun 17 2009, 05:27 PM
QUOTE (Angel C @ Jun 17 2009, 12:24 AM)

"We are the breath of god".
Yes!
Lickdafoot
Jun 17 2009, 06:16 PM
Hi all, its been quite a while since i've posted in here but i've felt compelled. I'ved been corresponding with Angel and just recently sent her an email, talking about the low energy I had been feeling lately. I think i even mentioned to her that I felt it was something occuring at a subconscious level.
Well, she linked me to this post on the guild and I find myself being in awe by all of your posts. I think part of me forgot the warm group nature of the site =)
I think there are constantly shifts going on in the environment and human nature that are pretty subtle although extremely important. They affect us all, some in tune with it moreso than others.
Since I've stopped coming around the forum as much I have studied astrology quite a bit. I find it interesting about the eclipses, they can be very powerful! I don't know too much about them, but know it is a time for relinquishing of the old. The decisions we make during this time set up for the future.
Theres another astrological influence that might be of affect. It's a transiting conjunction between Jupiter, Neptune, and Chiron.
Neptune is the planet of spirituality, of collective unconcious, delusionment and fantasy, depression, subtle energy, and connection of spirits on a collective level. the sea of collective unconsious so to speak.
Jupiter is the planet of expansion, universal love and unlimited wisdom.
And finally, Chiron, one of the major asteroids studied in astrology, relates to the wounded healer. It is an area where we feel deep- seated neglect and abandonment, and in turn use it to heal others and ultimately heal ourselves.
The conjunction of these three planets is very powerful for those of us that have psyhcic and spiritual natures. It is combining our energies of expansive delusion and collective promise, all in a way that relates to healing one another. Something very transformative. And it will effect everyone differently depending on thier charts. These three planets have all gone retrograde within the past few weeks, jupiter being the last one, on the 15th. retrograde means internalized and more of a subtle, unordinary nature. (its seemingly going backwards from out position on the earth)
Oh, by the way, this conjunction is taking place in Aquarius- the sign of drastic change, societal upheavel and new inspirations.
Anyway, often times a feeling of low energy is like the calm before the storm; a period of respit just before something new emerges around the corner. I hope everyone is preparing for whatever exciting times are ahead! =P
Thanks Angel, for linking this to me. I forgot how involved I was with this forum for a while and how quickly it spread my spiritual and psyhcic growth =)
Chiili
Jun 17 2009, 06:41 PM
And thank you Lickdafoot!

that was awesome.
I have to admit I have felt a lul in my days events. I just attributed it to being out of school and lack in finding things to do of a productive nature. But none the less I don't feel bad about it. I just feel like, soon everything will come into focus. Meanwhile I'll just listen, wait and just see what comes to me...
Victoria
Jun 17 2009, 06:58 PM
QUOTE (Chiili @ Jun 17 2009, 07:41 PM)

And thank you Lickdafoot!

that was awesome.
I have to admit I have felt a lul in my days events. I just attributed it to being out of school and lack in finding things to do of a productive nature. But none the less I don't feel bad about it. I just feel like, soon everything will come into focus. Meanwhile I'll just listen, wait and just see what comes to me...

I'm a BIG believer in "Do what you really feel like doing", even if what you really feel like doing is lying on the sofa reading while nibbling chocolate!
(Whenever you can, that is. I realise some people have to go out to work or school.)
Chiili
Jun 17 2009, 07:12 PM
Lol gosh I'm a 'house wife' right now.. so weird, it's the first time I don't have a job in 14 years that includes school.

At least when I had that it was like I had a job. The first week was the worst I didn't know what to do with myself, the second week I thought I had it, by the third I realized the patterns I don't like so I'm trying to fix them... one of them is staying up late.

I'm such a night person, how do you break a 25 year habit?

I just need to get into a groove that feels right to me and from which I can add to it when I need to... and I'll start by going to bed
Kai
Jun 18 2009, 04:11 AM
Some people like to work, they like having a schedule and stuff to do to keep there minds off things I suppose. Me, I want to be a house husband....I want to lazy around all day, I love days like that. I can keep myself entertained just staring at a wall, my mind is a theater.
I am a firm believer that if everybody did what they wanted, the whole world would fall into place and every necessary job would be filled. With technology these days we could fill jobs no one wants with computers anyway. This world can be so great.
ciel22
Jun 21 2009, 06:39 PM
Kai, you have an excellent point!
My career choice was weighing on me a lot and then I realized that I don't need to weigh every single factor - I realised that nothing was stopping me from doing what I want to do, and I'm happy to say that I'm doing it now and love it!
Still, I am not sure why it didn't strike me sooner that a ton of preconditions aren't necessary to do what you love - it's as simple as figuring out what you want to do, and doing it! It's an empowering thing
Angel C
Aug 29 2009, 12:28 PM
I'm just re-reading this old thread and remembering how low I felt. I can hardly believe I felt like that now. I feel so good these days, within myself. I'm wondering how everyone else feels now, who went through a low period around this time.
Victoria
Aug 29 2009, 02:25 PM
QUOTE (Kai @ Jun 18 2009, 05:11 AM)

I am a firm believer that if everybody did what they wanted, the whole world would fall into place and every necessary job would be filled.
I agree. Do you still think this?
Lane
Aug 30 2009, 09:50 PM
This is a very thought provoking thread.Thank you for posting it.
Victoria
Aug 31 2009, 01:20 AM
Lane
Aug 31 2009, 01:27 PM
Huge hugs back at you.I have been missing everyone here.
Kai
Aug 31 2009, 05:37 PM
QUOTE (Victoria_210 @ Aug 29 2009, 09:25 PM)

I agree. Do you still think this? 
I absolutely do. There are so many different perspectives and things to do, no wonder there seem to be an extra number participating in the human experience today. I still do like to be lazy but I like other things too, since probably no one will pay me to lie around, I hope to be paid for some of my other interests.
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